In this episode, we'll take a deep dive into the Pentagon budget. During the first half of the program, Carley Towne interviews Miriam Pemberton, author of Six Stops on the National Security Tour: Warfare Economies & Other Ambitions about how we can demilitarize the economy. Then, CODEPINK organizer Cody Urban talks with James Ehlers, an activist in Vermont about our ongoing campaign to Divest Vermont from the War Machine and the F-35 program there.