Found out*

Okay so I found of the statistics with the gun free zones are true as I did more research. The question we need to ask is how this happens. Things we consume physically and mentally, this is a big key. ROTC definitely doesn’t help at all.

Okay so I found of the statistics with the gun free zones are true as I did more research. The question we need to ask is how this happens. Things we consume physically and mentally, this is a big key. ROTC definitely doesn’t help at all.

And shootings don’t happen mostly in gun-free zones. There are no statistics to back that up. I bet most of these responses are done by parents of kids in rotc and kids in rotc. And people previously in rotc. It IS the militarization of high schools. How can you not see that? You’re lying to yourself directly by telling yourself otherwise. I honestly hope rotc gets banned in the future.

Next time you attack liberation movements re evaluate yourself and who and what you are. Really creepy about saluting because I thought oh it’s interesting the military would use that. A lot of things have been tested even in muscle testing. When you salute funnily enough you’re exposing yourself and your space directly and making yourself succeptible to anything that comes your way, you’re letting it take over your whole being. Also you’re giving away your own consciousness and free will. You’re opening up your energy field directly.

Fools are those who think it’s normal to be interested in rotc and that think it is a development program. This is exactly what the matrix programs into your minds. People understand this is what is going on, yet people think the ones that fight against this don’t know what rotc is. Of course they do. Guns are bad and many shootings happen a lot. The ones on here defending rotc are the ones that don’t know what it is. The military shouldn’t even be in high schools to begin with, no one in the right mind wants to do that. Usually idiots are the ones that think it’s everything you’re fooled to believe about it. Wake up. No one is meant to do that or enjoy that.

Also they force their viewpoints on people, they teach kids in there one sided viewpoints on politics and teaches kids to hate people with opposing viewpoints.

When I said including myself I meant I am not in rotc and never will be. Not that many people are interested, including myself. Yelling at kids isn’t good either. That’s why I said fear programming.

Honestly ROTC isn’t a good program. It’s a bunch of nationalism and fear programming which is crazy. Unnatural restrictive movements aren’t discipline, neither is scaring kids and telling them if they drop out they’re sissies and undisciplined. A long time ago nations didn’t exist and everyone got along. Peace and freedom is the way to go. The problem is allthough not a big percentage of the kids are even in or interested in rotc, including myself, some people go in to rotc without questioning what they do. I understand the fundemental principles of life. It might not be the real military but it’s still military related, it’s still military stuff. It teaches homophobia and that life is for suffering, and that because slaves had to be slaves then you should do something you don’t want to do. I’ve heard someone say this actually. Stop defending rotc and thinking you know everything without hearing a second opinion. ROTC DOES teach violence through sudden military movements and noises. They sing songs about torchoring animals and shooting people and rushing in for wounded people. The liberals understand that this might be indirect but it LEADS to violence and oppression! We want a friendly and cooperative community. ROTC also tells people they’re better than everyone else in the building, which as we know leads to violence. Kids with higher ranks think they are more privileged.

Because giving a Cadet an Air Rifle is apparently the militarization of a high schooler. No, it’s not. Same goes to the DRILL rifles given to Color Guard and Drill Team. Might as well ban band as well. Marching season shows a military-esque uniform with marching like a military during any parade. Some who join JROTC actually received help from instructors because they were going through a hard time. Get into a fight and you’re practically done from the program. How about you fight for better security at schools instead of fighting to ban firearms? Have you not realized that shootings happen mostly in gun-free zones? Where the public is a prime target for a mass shooting. And instead of removing JROTC, praise the JROTC instructors because they had 3 cadets die after they laid their life to save their classmates, something they have done when they served in the damn Military.
C/LcCpl Chavez aka A Band Geek.

A lot of these responses are propaganda, by pro-war forces whose children never have to serve, neither did their parents. Only the poorest and most needy of jobs serve. In any military branch, what they get today are raped—male or female—underpaid, and singled-out by offices for sexual assaults, Wrongful Discharges, or kangaroo UCMJ’s. The military is a high-tech plantation. Don’t Be Fooled!

I am a JROTC student and I will be the first to tell you that this is disgraceful and shameful to our country. How do you think our ancestors who died for your freedom would feel reading this bullshit. When I saw this shit I didn’t know what to think, and clearly none of you have seen the inside of a jrotc classroom let alone know what we are taught there. Do you not have better shit to do than attack a patriotic program that teaches loyalty and respect. Why don’t you go feed some hungry children instead of attacking jrotc. I was ashamed to read this article and it was hard to believe that assholes like all of you have no sense on national pride. You will hear more from me when #fuckcodepink launches on Instagram and YouTube 2018-2019. This crosses the line and shows just how fucking ignorant you motherfuckers are. Fuck anyone who supports this.

#fuckcodepink

I am a JROTC student and I will be the first to tell you that this is disgraceful and shameful to our country. How do you think our ancestors who died for your freedom would feel reading this bullshit. When I saw this shit I didn’t know what to think, and clearly none of you have seen the inside of a jrotc classroom let alone know what we are taught there. Do you not have better shit to do than attack a patriotic program that teaches loyalty and respect. Why don’t you go feed some hungry children instead of attacking jrotc. I was ashamed to read this article and it was hard to believe that assholes like all of you have no sense on national pride. You will hear more from me when #fuckcodepink launches on Instagram and YouTube 2018-2019. This crosses the line and shows just how fucking ignorant you motherfuckers are. Fuck anyone who supports this.

#fuckcodepink

First of all, marksmanship in JROTC and Military has 3 different levels of performance: Sharpshooter, Marksman, Expert. Saying Cruz was an expert marksman is practically saying he is a good bad shooter. Also, the rifles shot in JROTC is supervised and are AIR COMPRESSED RIFLES that shoot METAL BBs only 10m. Not actual firearms are fired on school grounds that is ridiculous. Illegal too. Before beginning a practice, the marksman ship team is ALWAYS given the safety procedures and if the rules for the range safety are violated, the shooter who violated those rules will be removed. Last, the instructors for JROTC are RETIRED MILITARY personnel that are licensed teachers. The program is a LEADERSHIP program designed to instill discipline, achievement, dedication, motivation, selflessness, honor, courage, and commitment. Majority of our outside of school activities are COMMUNITY SERVICE. The programs are also funded by their respective military branch and the NRA is NOT included in its funding. Half of the instructors pay is brought by their respective branch and the other half is brought by the respective school. The programs use fundraisers to invest in themselves, the school does not invest much into these programs. If you would like to actually educate yourselves about the JROTC program, feel free to contact myself via email at straightouttaapoopka@gmail.com thank you.

I was a student enrolled throughout all 4 years of high school in the JROTC program. Not once, was I trained to fire a weapon, not once was I educated in military tactics and operational procedures. The program focuses on educating leadership, morals, and strengthening skills such as public speaking, science, and workmanship. To say that the program trains these students for “war” is an act of lunacy, a flat out lie, and quite ridiculous.
In fact, the only rifle that I ever got my hands on in the JROTC program was a decommissioned (none-serviceable) de-activated rifle incapable of firing any ammunition cartridges, or the chambering of any ammunition whatsoever. The rifle had an 18 inch rod welded into the barrel to prevent it from ever being used again, and was only used for Honor Guard marches, and drill team functions.
JROTC is not what you think it is, and it doesn’t prepare students for their futures in the military. Upon completion of 4 years, I did receive a certification of completion which allowed me to enter the service as an E-3 rather than an E-1, but in no way did my 4 years in JROTC prepare me for the transition into military life. That was procured on day-1 entering the military.
For you to flat out lie that our schools are teaching students to “kill” is an insult to the highest degree, and I demand that this page be audited and taken down for it’s efforts to falsely interpret the work that our nation’s military has provided in keeping the nations None-Commissioned Officers and Senior Instructors the chance to educate and stand as mentor’s over our nation’s students.

SSGT S. Eriksen
Former US Army.

What an idiotic bunch of drivel. Maybe next time try looking up some facts before you open your yaps.

You’re ignorant. You’re all idiotically nitwits if u figure u should remove jrotc. Nobody needs some uneducated individuals walking against what they unmistakably know nothing about. Know your actualities about ROTC before making a move. This program shows respect and regard. Citizenship and honor. More schools require the JROTC program to teach and guide our age. In any event, have the decensy to show some regard for our fallen ROTC cadets. R. I. P.

I’m a jrotc cadet. This not about recruiting kids for the military it is about teaching core leadership values. In the air force there are 3 Corp values that we live by. Integrity first, Service before self, & Excellence in all we do. Are motto is; “Develop citizens of character dedicated to serving their nation and community.” We can’t blame the weapon or the people who taught Nick Cruz. He has only brought shame to his unit and he will suffering for it. As for our teachers they were soldiers, but there not here to recruit us, they are here to teach us what it means to be a patriot and what it means to have honor. Two Jrotc students were killed at park view, naught by an AR 15 rifle, but by another human.

SO I SAY TO ALL, LET JROTC REMAIN UNTOUCHED AND LOYAL TO EVERY CORP OF CADETS!

Off we go into the wild blue yonder,
Climbing high, into the sun,
Here they come zooming to meet our thunder,
At ’em boys, Give’er the gun! (Give’er the gun now!)
Down we dive, spouting our flame from under,
Off with one heckuva roar!
We live in fame, or go down in flame,
Hey! Nothing’ll stop the U.S. Air Force!

Please stop spreading propaganda like this to our young people. Individuals of sufficient age and experience have no problem seeing that your organization supplies nothing but your own opinions about how to “make things better”. However, this slander you are spreading could have dire consequences to young impressionable Americans. The JROTC program in our schools teaches honor, integrity, and accountability, and in some cases, the JROTC instructors are the only adults that genuinely care about these young people and what they can become in the future. I took JROTC classes all four years of high school. Yes, we had a marksmanship program. Yes, I am an expert marksman trained by my high school JROTC program. But before I was allowed to touch one of the .22 caliber range rifles used in all JROTC programs, there was an extensive gun safety class. One infraction of the rules meant you were unable to pick up a rifle for the rest of your time in JROTC. However, I was also the Commander of the Regulation Drill Team, as well as Special Assistant to the Senior Army Instructor since my career path was in leadership and management. JROTC is more than just shooting and war. Being a member of JROTC had a huge impact on my life and is a big part of where I am now.

JROTC also had a big impact on how I handled bulling in my school. I learned the resolve and wit to be able to handle bullies and stand up for anyone I observed being treated any way other than respectfully. By reading over your founders and staff section, I believe I can safely say you have no idea of what a young male goes through in his daily high school life. You may say you do but based on your staffs bio, none of you have ever lived it. Without the JROTC program, I would have been lost in high school.

Based on the comments, it does not seem that you have much positive feedback on this action and I believe it is because you are thinking of how everything affects you and people like you. That is a very narrow minded approach and will only lead to more devastation. You are attacking a program that teaches our young Americans that it still means something to be called an American, a fact that based on your actions, you all have forgotten a long time ago.

Please consider the potential consequences of your actions. You are attempting to take away a program that has great value to schools, communities, and students themselves.

I do not agree with the actions you are taking and the stance you have on key political interests, however, I do respect all of your opinions and believe it is your right to have your voice heard. I learned that in JROTC.

You all are the most ignorant people I have ever heard of. I was at work when this crap made headline news and the only way I can even think of why it made headline news is because it is so freaking stupid. JROTC is not militarising kids…. JROTC is a citizenship development course that teaches kids ethics, morals, and leadership traits. Yes we wear a uniform but that is to teach discipline. The JROTC program does not teach you to shoot an AR-15 we shoot air rifles and that’s only if you make the team and when you have made the team you go through hours and hours of safety courses so before you run your mouth and say JROTC is the reason this happened how about you guys do some research instead of pointing the finger at everything you can. Go be liberal somewhere else not here. You are not obligated to the military if you do JROTC but if you decide you want to do it it help you so much because you already have the discipline and leadership skills that they are looking for in young men and women. I’m in my fourth year of NJROTC and I’ll tell you that I won’t be where I am today without it. I have done community service and helped veterans and I have done 5K runs to help raise money for local charities. Just because we where a uniform doesn’t mean we are the military. If you ban JROTC you are taking away from the military that protects your right to be stupid.

I tried to sign in via twitter, because I’m new to twitter and your “Nation Builder” system failed to log me in…I tried 3 or 4 times each ending up with a fail. I wouldn’t dare give you lefties access to my facebook page. I am a disabled combat veteran that grew up in NYC and never had access to a JROTC or else I would of joined. The military saved me from myself. I was a kid who dropped out of school in the 11th grade and thought I had it all figured out. I joined the Air Force and it turned my life around for the better! I started to think for the first time that I didn’t know much of anything and had a lot of growing up to do. I recieved my GED before going in and once in, a person that HATED school started to take a class here and there from the University of Maryland because my superiors that I looked up to really had a passion for school and it had an effect on me! I now am a college graduate and I have the military to thank. I served 21 years between the Air Force and Army and I would not change a thing. I am pround of my service to my country and it made me a better man.

I want to thank BLANCHE DEVEROUX, because after reading her comment I decided to post my 2 cents. Thank you.

Tansey, T. ,MSgt, Ret

P.S.: I didn’t think that JROTC would shoot actual weapons, they DO NOT! The claim that JROTC “taught the shooter to shoot an AR-15” is so dishonest of you. At the most they used air rifles in the 3rd or 4th year. An air riffle is a far cry from “They are teaching kids to go to war!” Another point I wanted to make is you think everything can be solved peacefully with “flowers and treats”. What happens when peace talks fail? In your eyes is their ever a time for hostilities? Maybe as they are bombing us you would be ok to fighting back? If Iran/North Korea is allowed to develop a nuclear weapon it will mean ANYONE with the money will be able to place their order for a nuclear weapon. If that happens it will fall solely on the backs of people like you.

They do not teach marksmanship. he learned it elsewhere. Get informed and get A clue!

JROTC is a good organization for young people that are interested in joining the Armed Services after high school. This kid AND the community were failed by the social services, the school and law enforcement. PUT THE BLAME WHERE IT REALLY LAYS!!! Are you do as an organization is cause unnecessary trouble. I a a woman and my opinion of Codepink is that: Codeepink is a bunch of unhappy self serving women that need some serious counseling!

I seriously can not believe the stupidity & asininity exposed in this obnoxious campaign to end JROTC. It’s a wonderful program as mentioned in earlier comments that gives young adult’s the opportunity to gain leadership traits, self respect & above all to love our country. Many will not go on to military careers, some may take one or two tours based on their experience, some will apply to our prestigious academies. Every year I present an honor award for the outstanding senior JROTC cadet. This cadet excels in academics, Grades, sports & leadership roles within the unit. I look out at the audience, the parents, friends, young cadets & I see proud parents & future leaders of this country. What do I see in the Pink Code? whiners, losers, pussies who don’t have the sense to get out of the rain.
Blanche
MSG, US Army®

JROTC creates brave, responsible young men and women and if it weren’t for that program there could possibly be a lot more fatalities that came out of that shooting. It is because of cadets like Peter Wang and the other two cadets at that school that a lot of lives were saved that day. Please come up with a better reasoning behind this horrendous act since you clearly cannot accept that this was just the act of a sick individual who wanted nothing more than to lash out, take lives, and create chaos.

You know who else was in the JROTC program at that same school? Peter Wang. You know, the boy who died by trying to SAVE teachers and students by holding the door open for them to escape the shooter. The majority of men in my family did jrotc/rotc and joined the military after, and not one of them have done anything violent to harm themselves or anyone around them. They offer scholarships and great opportunities for kids, and help kids be able to attend college and get an education. I’m all for woman power and standing up for a good cause, but this is ridiculous. I’m ashamed for you.

Wow, you guys seriously need a better argument for your agenda. Even though I don’t agree with your beliefs, you could at least ATTEMPT to find something that is a plausible solution. JROTC? REALLY?

I would also like to add that Marksmanship is NOT a requirement of being in the program. There are many different teams that the cadets can choose to be on such as the drill team, athletics, academics, etc. Not one cadet is forced to learn marksmanship. These teams compete and try their best to accomplish ranking high as a unit for the year. My son participated on almost all teams but drill was the most impressive. Perhaps you should watch a video of a drill team performing and watch the discipline they have and the teamwork they learn NOT BRAINWASHING. My son has always made his own decisions. Always! Again, before people start to comment and pass judgement perhaps you should do more research on what you will be commenting about.

My son is in his last year of the NJROTC program. He was the Commanding Officer this year. He worked his tail off for his position. He is also enlisted in the Coast Guard already on delayed entry waiting to serve this country to protect and serve all of you and your families. I was very active in the program serving as the booster club president for four years and I watched this program change kids lives who have come from nothing!!! Did any of you even stop to think about what you are saying or doing before you protested this program? There are hundreds of school shootings and those kids probably never even touched a damn rifle until they started shooting! Stop trying to find blame somewhere else for the horrible things that are happening and just blame the person who did this horrible act. Don’t act like morons and blame this program that is putting young men and women out into the military to serve you, the ones now dumping on them.

My son is in his last year of the NJROTC program. He was the Commanding Officer this year. He worked his tail off for his position. He is also enlisted in the Coast Guard already on delayed entry waiting to serve this country to protect and serve all of you and your families. I was very active in the program serving as the booster club president for four years and I watched this program change kids lives who have come from nothing!!! Did any of you even stop to think about what you are saying or doing before you protested this program? There are hundreds of school shootings and those kids probably never even touched a damn rifle until they started shooting! Stop trying to find blame somewhere else for the horrible things that are happening and just blame the person who did this horrible act. Don’t act like morons and blame this program that is putting young men and women out into the military to serve you, the ones now dumping on them.